Clampers blasted for 'underhand' tactics

Last updated: 11/17/2009 5:38:00 PM


Keith Thorby
Keith Thorby
IPSWICH: Private clamping firms were today blasted by angry motorists who called their parking enforcement tactics “underhanded”.

Another two drivers have been added to a growing list of those stunned by charges incurred for outstaying their welcome on private land in Ipswich.

Oliver Horsman was hit with a whopping £511.75 bill for not returning to his car in time, while Keith Thorby was forced to shell out £120 for a three-minute stay in a side street.

The clampers have defended the hefty fees, claiming they are proportionate to the cost of running their businesses.

Oliver Horsman
Oliver Horsman
However, the AA has called their approach “gross, immoral and beyond the boundaries of reason”.

Mr Horsman, of Norwich Road, Claydon, intended to return to his car after parking overnight on private land owned by an acquaintance, but a tooth abscess prevented him from driving. When he did make it back to his car the next day it had been towed away by Ipswich-based clampers Proserve.

“My dentist told my not to drive for 36 hours, so I wasn't able to go back and move my car. When I did go to pick it up, it wasn't there.” said the 29-year-old.

Mr Horsman contacted Proserve and was told he owed them £511.75 for releasing the clamp, towing the car away and storing it overnight.

He said: “I offered them a more reasonable £320 but they wouldn't accept it and I had to pay the full amount.”

Mr Thorby, 55, of King's Way, Ipswich, parked his Jeep Cherokee outside the Tesco Express store in Duke Street but ended up paying dearly for his short stay.

“I was on my way into town and needed change for the car parks so went to the Express store to buy something small,” he said.

“I was trying to park legally but there were only a limited amount of spaces available. I thought it wouldn't hurt to just nip round the corner into Tye Road and park for a couple of minutes.

“I wasn't hindering anyone there but when I left the store, after no more than a few minutes, I saw my car had been clamped. I went berserk.

“My jaw dropped when I was told it would be £120 to have it removed and if I didn't pay, it would cost me another £195 for it to be towed away.

Mr Thorby threw the money on to the bonnet of the unmarked grey Ford Fiesta driven by the parking enforcers.

“My objection isn't with being penalised, it's with the amount I was fined,” he said. “I wouldn't have complained if it was £30.

“I've got a funny feeling they were waiting there and watching for me to leave my car. They are not displaying their intent by travelling in an unmarked car. To me, it's underhanded.”



Your rights: Citizens Advice Bureau guidelines for motorists

- Wheel-clampers used by private landowners must have a licence from the Security Industry Authority (SIA) and should wear it where you can see it at all times when they are working.

- When you pay to have your vehicle released, the wheel-clamper must provide a receipt which includes the place where the vehicle was clamped, their name and signature, their 15 digit SIA licence number and the date.

- There must be notices up where you can clearly see them, warning that unauthorised vehicles will be clamped.

Currently, bailiffs can obtain a license to clamp by completing a short training course and being subject to a background check. But having a criminal record does not exclude an applicant from gaining a permit.

A spokeswoman for licensing body the Securities Industry Authority said: “A criminal record is not a complete bar.

“It depends on what the offence was, when it took place and the sentence given.

“Our remit for regulating license holders is set out by legislation through parliament. We have no basis in law to change it.

“If we receive a report from police that someone is unsuitable, we can suspend their license and go on to revoke it indefinitely.

“A license can also be suspended for things like not properly displaying a permit, but there is no regulation to say clampers have to operate in marked vehicles.”



Last month, London hosted the first ever parking summit to look at the rights of motorists and how they are treated by parking companies and local authorities.

The president of the AA, Edmund King, told transport minister Lord Adonis that there should be tougher controls in place for regulating fines on private land.

Under a suggested new system, wheel-clampers would be obliged to register with an approved trade association - to which neither Proserve nor Aspire belong - and agree to its code of practice before being awarded a licence to clamp and tow away vehicles.

Paula McNulty, spokeswoman for approved trade association the British Parking Association (BPA), said: “We have a voluntary approved operator scheme which firms can sign up to and operate within a code of practice.

“They don't have to be BPA members to operate but do need to be licensed by the Securities Industry Authority.

“One of the things addressed at last month's parking summit was the compulsory government licensing of businesses which would then be required to abide by the BPA code of practice.”





Paul Watters, head of public affairs at the AA, said the methods employed by some private clampers were “gross, immoral and beyond the boundaries of reason”.

“The public shouldn't ignore signage but our policy is that the penalty for doing so shouldn't be any worse that that issued by the council,” he said.

“This is highly dubious and quite shocking.

“Private car parking enforcement is completely out of control and the public don't seem to have any rights of appeal. All these firms need to do to operate is to pass a criminal record check and complete a short course.”



What the clampers say:

Steve Duff of Proserve, which operates on behalf of 76 private land owners in the region including Felixstowe port and several industrial estates in the Ipswich area, said: “Each individual case differs with regard to fees. We can deal with anything from a small van to a 40ft truck.

“The fees are big purely because our clients don't want people to park on their land. Our sites are very well signed. If motorists fall foul of those signs they will be immobilised.

“The people we work for are very happy with what we do and our work is not necessarily limited to just clamping. We maintain and patrol the areas we manage at our own cost. The fines are proportionate to the cost of running our business.

“Obviously this is a very controversial subject but there is nothing cloak and dagger about the nature of our business.”

He said Proserve had offered free parking at one of its sites to East Anglia's Children's Hospices (EACH) volunteers taking part in the upcoming Art Show at Ipswich's Corn Exchange this month, following the closure of Crown Street car park.

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  • Everyone knows the Tesco is one spot where they wait, so the driver was naieve, however, the amount he had to pay is criminal. Bet they don't try to clamp cars full of blokes.

    Sol Rosenberg

  • Clampers and vermin, same people. Oops sorry vermin, didn't mean to offend!

    richard wisbey

  • Clampers beside tesco, in duke street, do hide up , i have seen them , as soon as the driver is out of site, they jump. People using this store are usually getting a sandwich or something small it is not a large supermarket, i have seen a young lady in tears, they point to the atm. BEWARE £120 for 2 minutes

    fred carno

  • Licensed Daylight Robbers. Its as simple as that.

    Steve Jones, Ipswich

  • I parked in the side road next to Tescos in Duke Street. Didnt see any signs but went to the cashpoint 20 yards away. Fortunately no-one in front of me and it took no more than 30 seconds to withdraw the money. As I went back to the car I saw two flourescent jacketed yobs with their hoods up (In summer) running towards my car with with a clamp. I called out and they ran away towards their car (marked with A5 size stcikers), heads down. NOTHING TO HIDE ? - RUBBISH !!!, they are cowboy scum, clear and simple and deserve any and all the abuse they get.

    Gary Grayson, Ipswich

  • Ha Haaaaaaa! It makes my day when I see these stories of "hard done by motorists". He thought it wouldnt hurt just to nip in.....well it says dont park there doesnt it....so dont park there...easy! If everyone obeyed the law then these thieving wheel clampers could not possibly exist. So everyone help each other and park legally.

    Johnny Walker

  • u missing the point, charges excessive yes, but they still were parking illegally!

    IBC anon

  • I have a master key which fits almost all wheel clamps, i have been clamped before and used the key and it works.

    Shaun Brown, Woodbridge

  • where do the clampers park whilst watching...why dont the shoppers try and park there! Some people seem to avoid 3-5mins of walking and then take a chance illegally parking.If there are signs up and they meet the regulations then no real reason to moan.

    special plod

  • Well I didn't know any wheel clampers operated on the Port Of Felixstowe nice too know though.

    Alan Smith

  • there are clampers down the docks in walton avenue and parker avenue and on the bp garage:(:(:(

    david pettitt

  • This problem has got to be sorted outby the government , sooner than later , the fines shoud not be any more than what the council charge (theirs are over the top as it is ) but if something is not done ,one day they will clamp the wrong person and it might end in tragedy

    Pablo Gonzalas

  • The Clampers around Tesco Express are shocking! They wait at the top of Tye Road for people to nip into the tescos. I live on the development and don't have a problem with people stopping to shop. It doesn't affect the parking because they are only in the shop for a minute or two. They haven't clamped anywhere else on the development for nearly 12 months - why? - because they make a fortune outside tescos. My advice to those who need to pop into Tescos would be to double park outside - they can't clamp you for being doing that nor being on a yellow line, they are a private company operating only on the private road.

    P White

  • While I don't condone drivers parking illegally, clamping should be banned in this country, or the job done by a single English agency run by the government.

    Sarky Sage

  • Only the Government can sort this out...but they don,t. Hours upon hours of debating in the House of Lords ...yet this clamping nonsense has been robbing people for years. Its a nasty society today...and nothing is being done about it.

  • I'm not surprised Proserve behave this way. Their office is just round the corner from Duke Street so of course they are laying in wait.

    Lakota S

  • there are clampers down the docks in walton avenue and parker avenue and on the bp garage:(:(:(

    david pettitt

  • www.ipswichdirectory.com/carparks might be worth noting for parking in Ipswich..

    P White

  • There is a way to counter this if you're prepared to have a go. Who dares wins! If you think the charge is unfair, unreasonable and disproportionate then take these companies to the small claims court, citing these grounds. As an example, if the fine is £500 pay it, write on their form 'paid under protest.' Then, for a Court fee of around £30 sue them for a repayment as you think fit, say £300. They will have to prove to a Judge that their fees in your particular case are fair, reasonable and proportionate by disclosing documentary evidence for the Court to make a decision. Don't forget HM judges are on the side of ordinary folk in battles with 'goliaths.' The whole procedure is very, very easy and all you can lose is around £30 to gain £2-300. You do not have to pay any witness fees. All you do is tell the Judge the circumstances he will decide. This has been successful in London. Don't let them take advantage. You can do it!!

    david rowson

  • Fair play, if you're parked illegally then you should expect a ticket. Charging someone £120 for a few minutes parking & then penalising you further if you dont have access to the cash immediately is ridiculous. I wonder if they'd be doing it so zealously if there wasn't a cashpoint nearby?

    Kirsty Wills, Ipswich

  • Bottom line is that there are signs and people have been taking calculated risks and on occasions, not getting away with it. The big farce here is the amount. £120 for getting clamped by Duke Street Tescos is extortionate when you can shoplift and do other crimes and the police will issue an £80 fine. There's just no logic.

    Jon Burns

  • I live above the tescos on duke street and the van that I used the day I moved in got clamped,the permit was in window but we was in half space which carrying alot of items up stairs was alot easier , but got fined £250 ,i dont understand y they are aloud a permit in there car but they def do hide up they have even clamped a council van its all wrong!!

    Sammy M

  • These clampers at duke street are very quick i see them one day put a clamp on before the person got in the shop

    andrew potter, IPSWICH

  • I was clamped by "Aspire" along Tye road (the side of Tesco) I went into tesco to grab some milk and was literally 3 mins - I came back to find my car clamped. They wanted £120 cash to remove it. When i started asking lots of questions they turned round and said "fine we will tow your car, youve had your chance its going" To which of course i got quite upset over! They then ageed to take my money and remove the clamp. The signs are not 100% clear and they just sit at the top of the road and wait for you - Very underhand tactics!!

    Sharonn Scott

  • The problems around Tescos on Duke Street are well documented and so is the illegal parking. If you are illegally clamped there are remedies - not the best processes in the world but they do exist. Like every profession there are professional and unprofessional companies in clamping and the numerous signs for Proserve that I have seen around Ipswich are very obvious.

    Grace Williams

  • I also parked on the side road next to tesco express 2 nights ago as there is no where to park, popped in for what turned out to be the most expensive teabags i have ever bought!! £120 in cash there and then or no car! I was obviously being watched and the two were in an unmarked peugeot 206. Its very easy to say i should have seen the no parking signs but these were placed a good 15ft up the building, therefore it genuinely wasn't visable to me through my roof!! I can understand no parking but being charged £120 for the pleasure is just ridiculas. HOW do they get away with it!!

    olly p

  • Just to add to my previous. If you park in these private places it is not illegal and certainly not a criminal offence. It is a civil case of trespass where you can (a) dispute the facts eg signs not of the correct size and/or not displayed prominently (b) challenge the amount of the penalty as previously mentioned. You can do all this cheaply in the Small Claims Court. It may sound daunting but be assured it is very simple. some cases are dealt with solely online. If anybody needs totally free advice and/or representation as a 'court friend' contact me.

    david rowson

  • Clamping and extorting cash is not something we expect in Ipswich. I would suggest folks photograph these clampers and publish the pictures online. It would be good to see these folks faces and registration numbers. Then these folks should be socially isolated and the companies that employ these companies should also be isolated with nobody doing business with them. The clampers should be haunted by folks watching for the slightest motoring violation and every offence should be reported. These folks should be haunted out of our town along with the companies that hire them. turtill@gmail.com

    Peter Turtill, Ipswich

  • I am pleased to see today (20 November) that the Government is finally to announce legislation that will stop this activty dead in its tracks and reduce the amounts people have to pay to something like £40 outside the capital.

    Lakota S

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